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K. Instead of going on and on about Number Sense Dyscalculia and Blah Blah Blah..
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| xthewaves |
Posted on January 12 2006 05:55 PM
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I'm going to do something about it. Yeah! This is a bunch of little tricks that I've picked up along the way that may be of some use to people who have difficulty with the concept of "Number" and "Numerical Value." Such as, 5 is bigger than 4 and so on and on and on. Most of the stuff here is for people still in school, or facing problems on a test, etc etc. and also..COUNTING EW. xD
1. DIGITS. This is very useful when trying to figure out which number out of two is larger- or smaller- especially HUGE numbers such as 430657 and so on. This trick doesn't involve actual counting between the numbers, but between the digits. For example, if I gave you these numbers: "54743 - 36753" Which one is bigger? You would look at the first digits in the numbers, which are Five and Three. When you count between them, what do you find? Three is smaller than five! Which means that the whole number "36753" is smaller than the other one which I'm not going to attempt to do since my copy and paste button is broken. If the first two digits are the same, like say the numbers were "4567" and "4642" you would move on to the second digits, which are five and six (after the fours), and count between them. (since 5 is biger than six that would makke the first one right.) and so on and so on. IF the numbers are all the same, then that means the two numbers are equal. x) IF that doesn't make that much sence,..oh well. My head makes no sence x).
2. AMOUNTS. This is the easier version. If there are more digits in the number, it is the bigger number. For example, 245 and 24. 245 is bigger because it has three digits, (which is bigger than two digits, which 24 has.)
3. COUNTING STRATEGIES. Because I'm not Geoff, and I have no idea what the hell I'm doing with my experiments here, I'm going to share a way that has worked with me in counting out objects. Instead of just lining them up in my head with the number- I place my hand on each object as I count them out, and push it out of the way. For example, if there are eight pennies and I have to count them out I would go "One-" *Touch first penny and move it out of the way*, "Two," etc etc.
Sadly, this way isn't very effective because often times there are things on a page that you have to count, which I suggest doing something like Marking them out with a pencil, as you go along, and etc etc.
4. VERBAL. If you have problems with reading numbers, when doing a page or something for better referances try writing out the numbers. Instead of "8+7=15, bla bla bla lots of work etc etc like my notes?" You can write out "Eight plus seven equals fifteen, bla bla bla verbal stuff rocks look at my notes I can now kind of understand." It eliminates about 70% of the confusion of "Which number is that!" but all the other confusion is just having to do math itself. XD
AND YEAH. THAT WAS PRETTY USELESS. X)
AND I WOULD TRY TO POST MY THING ON UNDERSTANDING FRACTIONS, EXCEPT.. THAT I BARELY UNDERSTAND IT MYSELF AND IT'S A MERE OUTLINE IN MY HEAD AND I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND FRACTIONS SO IT'S NOT REALLY HELPFUL. 
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| xthewaves |
Posted on January 12 2006 06:00 PM
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PROCEDURAL DIFFICULTIES, MEMORY. For this problem, the best thing I find that helps me is if I get the instructions written down on everything I have to do, and carry it around with me in this really awesome WICKED binder that I made for myself XDDD! AND NOBODY LAUGHS AT ME BECAUSE I SMACK THEM WITH IT. K.. (goes on with explanation) For example, in my class we are multiplying fractions right now, and I"ve just fetched my sheet so I can remember what I have to do, but you write out each step- like for example multiplying 1/4 x 5/9 = ? my sheet says:
1. GRAB CALCULATOR
2. Multiply the first top numbers
3. Put answer of that as the first number in the answer to the question
4. Multiply the bottem numbers
5. Put that number on the bottem of the answer you got for the first one
6. And that's the answer so yeah you're done.
7. PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK FOR DOING MATH YAY.
x) This helps especially for things that have long complicated directions that don't stay straight in your head, like "Division with fractions", which I STILL haven't worked out. xD!
Edited by xthewaves on January 12 2006 06:04 PM
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| elle |
Posted on June 26 2006 08:54 PM
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xthewaves wrote:
3. COUNTING STRATEGIES. Because I'm not Geoff, and I have no idea what the hell I'm doing with my experiments here, I'm going to share a way that has worked with me in counting out objects. Instead of just lining them up in my head with the number- I place my hand on each object as I count them out, and push it out of the way. For example, if there are eight pennies and I have to count them out I would go "One-" *Touch first penny and move it out of the way*, "Two," etc etc.
i frequently count change this way. that's exactly how i did it when i had to count the contents of my drawer at the end of the night when i did cashier jobs. i need to physically move the coin out of my sight to remember that i counted it already.
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| Erin |
Posted on August 18 2006 08:57 PM
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I am amazed because that is exactly what I do. I have never really encountered a major problem with maths (probably just didn't do them!) but I have invented all these strategies for dealing with them. I am a volunteer with a youth organisation and frequently take groups of children away both at home and abroad. When we are travelling, to be sure that I have counted all the children I get them to pass me by so that I can tap them on the shoulder to count them!! |
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| karakittle |
Posted on May 18 2008 07:28 PM
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ok, when i have to count things i have to do the chunking and it usually takes 4 or 5 times to not count the same thing twice. |
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| dawn |
Posted on May 18 2008 08:25 PM
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Divison of fractions needs only one more step tp your multiplying list so 1/4 x 5/9 = was your example.......my example will be 1/4 divided by 5/9......first step flip the 5/9 to upside down because division is topsy-turvy ..now do your routine for 1/4 x 9/5 and you are on your way . PS how do you do a divided bt sign in typeset? |
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| carolineinoz |
Posted on May 19 2008 09:50 PM
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yikes fractions!!
I see all those numbers and my brain just seems to switch off... |
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| justfoundout |
Posted on June 26 2008 05:55 PM
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6/26/08
Dear Dawn,
I asked another member how to do the little raised number for 'exponent' and she sent me this explanation. I haven't used it yet. See if it helps for your question on how to do the division sign.
She said:
"I raised the 2 using the character map...start>programs>acessories>systemtools>character map...look for the baby 2"
justfoundout
P.S. Yes, I do see the division sign on the symbol chart!
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| justfoundout |
Posted on August 24 2008 11:37 PM
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8/24/08
I use fractions when I sew or do art projects. Something that makes it easier to "divide" is to use a cloth (flexible) tape measure. Then if you need to divide by 1/2, just hold your fingernail at the total measurement spot, and fold the tape measure in half. In the crease,... there's your half-way point. You can also do this with thirds, but you have to have a little patience adjusting the folds. Also, this will make your tape-measure life expectancy shorter than that of a normal-use tape measure,... but it's for a good cause.
- justfoundout
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| Kathy |
Posted on August 25 2008 01:49 AM
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Hi all,
I have always counted out money from a till by making "little piles", all denominations have to be together all the 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1.00, $2.00 coins and in that order!- usually laid out flat on a table - and woah betide anyone who moves my piles! then by adding each pile of the same coinage -I then add all the totals together to get the final amount in my till. It's the only way I can do it. Mixing coins for me is a nightmare!: ! for eample 5 - 20c pieces doesn't look like a dollar- I just have to accept it is - and tell myself so!! also how weird looking is- 1- 50c piece 2-20c pieces and a 10c coin to make a dollar as well?. I am always amazed that everyone else just accepts it is! You have to love the dyscalculia brain!! I think I preferred it when we had a $1.00 and $2.00 in paper form and not a coin - I get the 1.00 and 2.00 coin mixed up all the time!
Kathy
Albert Einstein said: "Many of the things you can count, don't count. Many of the things you can't count, really count!." |
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| Kathy |
Posted on August 25 2008 01:51 AM
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Hi Justfoundout,
Sewing for me is a definate no go area - but if you know of any one who would like a pink track suit - Pant size 22 and top size 8 - then let me know!
Kathy
Albert Einstein said: "Many of the things you can count, don't count. Many of the things you can't count, really count!." |
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| justfoundout |
Posted on August 25 2008 02:11 AM
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8/24/08
Dear Kathy,
Maybe e-bay? You gave me a good laugh on the 'disparity'. My proportion is the same, just higher numbers. lol
- justfoundout
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| Lostinspatial |
Posted on August 25 2008 01:56 PM
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I took a sewing class as a teen. The instructor was so frustrated with me, she joked about putting me in front of a firing squad! |
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| justfoundout |
Posted on August 25 2008 03:26 PM
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8/25/08
Dear Lisa_,
She was probably making you measure using one of those 8 inch metal rulers. If I hadn't already learned about folding the cloth tape measure, I wouldn't have understood the 8" metal ruler. Or maybe she was 'thinking outside the box' so as to keep herself out of "anger management classes" in case you decided to take sewing the next year, too. I hope you could wear the apron you made. (It was an apron, wasn't it?) - justfoundout |
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| Lostinspatial |
Posted on August 25 2008 04:13 PM
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It was supposed to be a denim jumper (it was a class at the local mall). I ended up dropping out. I have trouble with things like cutting straight lines, measuring etc. I ended up dropping out of the class. My grandmother was very talented at sewing and my mom was hoping I'd inherited that talent, but I didn't.
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| justfoundout |
Posted on August 25 2008 10:40 PM
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8/25/08
That's okay, you've "exceeded expectations" in the research department! The mall sewing teacher probably can't tell a "pocket part" from a "features chart". Did someone finish the Denim jumper for you? I hate to have 'bad reminders' left stored in a box somewhere. - justfoundout |
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| Lostinspatial |
Posted on August 25 2008 11:50 PM
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It was beyond salvaging! |
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| Germ |
Posted on April 01 2009 10:50 PM
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For figuring out what "number" a string of figures is I always have to add the commas......example 26555853421 = 26,555,853,421 = 26 billion,555 million,853 thousand,421.Only way I know to do it is to start at the end and add the commas 3 digits to the left of the end and every third digit til I get to the beginning. |
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| Pauline |
Posted on September 23 2009 03:15 AM
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2. AMOUNTS. This is the easier version. If there are more digits in the number, it is the bigger number. For example, 245 and 24. 245 is bigger because it has three digits, (which is bigger than two digits, which 24 has.)
HUH?
XD
When I first read this I was like: HUH? haha. |
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