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anxiety attack and panic attacks
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| mermaid23 |
Posted on June 10 2006 12:34 AM
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seeta_ji wrote:
I talked to one of my frends about my having dyscalculia, and how scared i was about telling anyone else. He was really shocked and i had to send him some info about dyscalculia cuz he didn't know what it was. I told him that I was afraid that i'd loose all my frends if they found out.
He told me that he isn't my frend bcuz of what i can't do, but he likes me bcuz of what I CAN do. And he told me to think for a while about the things that i'm really talented at...i'm a self-taught artist, might be a musician some day, I write really good stories even though my vocab isnt very large, and also the most important thing he reminded me of is my big heart.
By the end of all that i was almost in tears,  but it did make me think a lot. If I think more about the things I can do, no matter how little it is, it can really take my mind off of the anxiety....And this is what i started doing, if someone tell me; "ur stupid!" I'd think; "I bet he can't draw as good as me!! HA HA!!!"
A lot of people tell me i'm talented and my mother told me that i might be this way for life, but in reality, I have many gifts that other people can only dream about.....
That is a really good way to think about it! |
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| seeta_ji |
Posted on June 10 2006 03:06 PM
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Well, yeah....I have done a lot of thinking and meditating lately, it's part of growing up i guess.......u live and u learn....and laugh too! I love laughing
And another thing, I also found excerise is a good way to relieve some of that anxiety...I'd do some yoga/excersies for maybe 15 mins or more a day (depending on how much i feel like doing), early in the morning is best for me. It really helps and i don't feel so dpressed anymore.
They laugh at me because I'm different...I laugh at them because they're all the SAME!
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~*Seeta*~ |
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| mermaid23 |
Posted on June 10 2006 04:32 PM
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seeta_ji wrote:
Well, yeah....I have done a lot of thinking and meditating lately, it's part of growing up i guess.......u live and u learn....and laugh too! I love laughing
And another thing, I also found excerise is a good way to relieve some of that anxiety...I'd do some yoga/excersies for maybe 15 mins or more a day (depending on how much i feel like doing), early in the morning is best for me. It really helps and i don't feel so dpressed anymore.
YOGA
I love yoga! It has saved me in so many ways!
Wow every day! I wish I could make the time! |
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| Elieser |
Posted on June 12 2006 10:31 AM
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Well what is that you call when you feel a nervous chill flowing from your forehead down to your body? What is that that you call a fast beating heart feeling like you are going to die? A panic attack ? Yep! i had one all i was doing was watching a movie! i wasn't nervous in fact i was just sitting there in class when it happened. I went home and i cried to my mother and she took me to the hospital. Now i guess i suffer from anxiety attacks, panic attacks have become rare, but i guess i get them when i am flying on a plane when i think about the odds of ...erm...dying?!....i have the Discovery channel to thank for that and all of their BS about airplanes and how they work making you think "wow lots of things could go wrong huh?" Anyways all anxiety now when being faced with math related problems or anything that involves memory. |
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| CYL |
Posted on June 15 2006 02:15 AM
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Heh, I just got told by my counsellor that the funny feeling of not being able to breathe and wanting to cry and all my muscles seizing up when I'm told to do something I don't want to do, the funny feeling I've been having for about the last 10+ years, is a panic attack.
And no one else has noticed this before.
Also I probably have depression and many other problems. And I'm in counselling because I realised that something wasn't right, no one else. So, that's nearly 18 years of school teachers, university tutors and my own family not noticing that I was in deep psychological trouble and in need of help.
Mind you, since they also managed to completely miss the learnign disability, I'm not surprisied that thought I was faking everything.
Sorry, I'm a bit bitter about the whole thing at the moment.
Incidentally, I also love music and wish with all my heart I could play an instrument, but I had a horrible piano teacher when I was 8, and I had a really hard time when we hit chords and onward, so I stopped in under a year.
Maybe one day I'll find another teacher who doesn't mind me being quite rubbish and give it another go. Don't even get me started on the forced guitar lessons my school had us do. It was a disaster for me from start to finish. |
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| mermaid23 |
Posted on June 16 2006 01:51 AM
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I just started taking Celexa today. Has anyone here had any experience with it? I have heard weight gain and low sex drive are the two major side effects. What is the likelyhood of this happening? |
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| NiiwanaZaagi |
Posted on July 07 2006 05:56 AM
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atsguy wrote:
so how many of you have ever had a anxiety attack and or panic attack.
I know i have had my share...how about you
I've been starting to have panic attacks more and more often at my new job. I never had panic attacks before... well, I guess I did have them when I was little and had to do time tests... I'd freak out.
But really, I don't like people to think I'm stupid or silly though... I have asthema, so when I start having trouble breathing cause I get scared and frusterated and... really humiluated out on the gaming tables when I can't add the cards right, I've been pretending it's just my asthema. While dealing, legally - at least in Wisconsin - you can only deal cards for a max of 40 minutes, with required at least 20 minute breaks inbetween... well I got put on a 40 minute break the last time I was at work, spent all the break in the bathroom getting sick and then fainting cause I couldn't breath... I ended up being sent home early from school because they thought I was sick... really I was just freaking out after I made a HUGE mistake on the gaming table and got yelled at by my supervisor... it's -awful-. Is there any way, other than like, anxiety medications, to control these attacks? |
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| Nina |
Posted on July 10 2006 06:30 PM
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I didn't knew so many of people with dyscalculia is suffering from this things also. I am having panic disorder and depression for a year now, but it's getting better. The cause it's probably the anxiety i felt in classrooms at maths and then the fear sprought on general, so I have quite trouble with exams, i can't stay in a class...
anyway, I am doing an method called Cognitive Behavioral Therapy in a group of people with the same problem and we have the teacher who instructs us.
The technics include all kinds of breading techincs and visualisations, that helps you before and durring panic attacks...i am also taking medications, but i think the most efford is by doing this exercises-it's worth to try it!!
*Why should things be easy to understand?*
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| eoffg |
Posted on July 11 2006 06:24 AM
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Hi Nina and welcome to the Forum,
You are onto the best approach with Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, as it's the most effective way to really deal with anxiety.
As it gives you the skills to create your own new mental associations with something that had been causing anxiety. Replacing the old ones, that were mainly created by Other People?
Though the other side of it, is to understand Dyscalculia as not a Learning Disability, but a Learning Difference.
Where Dyscalculics are typically gifted Verbal Learners/ Thinkers, rather than Visual Spatial Learners / Thinkers.
Where the model of Maths taught, suits Visual Thinkers,
Which doesn't work for Verbal Thinkers.
Verbal and Visual Thinkers, work from opposite directions.
Visual Thinkers start from the 'big picture' and then break it down into its elements. Whereas Verbal Thinkers start the other way, where they bring the elements together, to create the 'big picture'.
Just as when you read a story.
If Dyscalculics were taught their own Verbal models for maths, then Dyscalculia would just become a different way of working with numbers.
Which could be as equally efficient?
No doubt Maths Education for Verbal Thinkers will be developed.
Where the greater question is what new insights Verbal Thinkers will bring to Maths?
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| Nina |
Posted on July 11 2006 09:23 AM
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Hi, Eoffg!
I completely agree with you.
However, when talkng about fear, it's really important first to help yourself in "right here-right now situation". And the part of the teraphy is also the part you were talking about. And it's the hardest one, becouse it totaly depends on you. Becouse the experiences makes our believes and that leads to the re-actions...
i have been thinking much time before about most of the things you mentioned. And the frustrations are not coused by dyscalculia, they develope becouse of the social pressure. History shows that different, non-ordinary thinking persons were usualy excluded. It's all in our heads. Like you said, people should be aware that it is not the disability, it's the difference and yes I could say it's a gift to have different-minded people oround us!
I felt a lot of frustration by the society, people oround me, especially becouse I didn't know "the name" for my difference, I didn't know what is going on... it leaves a huge spot on your selfesteem.
It's the people oround who give stickers for everything, so they are sure how suppose to treat the other...sad...
Personaly I have never saw my peculiarity as a "distraction", as a mistake in a system...it's the way I'm thinking, it'me!
What you have just wrote should know every parent, psyhologist, teacher, pedagogue (not just maths)!
*Why should things be easy to understand?*
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| karalyeva2 |
Posted on August 11 2006 04:06 PM
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I am somewhat of a shy personality, so my panic attacks are usually simply crying spells. It's really awful though, because I so badly want to make good, it's frustrating that I can't seem to. Does anyone have any suggestions for making these crying spells/panic attacks less aggravating?
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| Carlamom2 |
Posted on August 17 2006 06:31 PM
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what is is funny up to this point i never connected my "nervous Stomach" with having Dyscalculia, i am now 23 and i told my mom about this wonderful site i found last night she seen all the symptoms but insists that i "just didn't want to pat attention" and laughs every time i talk about. it makes me so angry i seen my little niece STRUGGLING with writing her name over and over and she is 5 every on is yelling at her telling her to stop being lazy, i can tell she physically can't pay attention and would if she could who wants to sit at a table for HOURS??? hopefully there will be more patience's with her generation... |
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| ert |
Posted on August 17 2006 07:59 PM
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Carlamom - really it's not natural for us humans to sit on our buts for hours and hours. We have been an active race for 40 thousand years, and then, suddenly, we have to sit down and listen quietly from an extremely early age... It's crazy when you think about it, isn't it. |
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| Carlamom2 |
Posted on August 18 2006 03:08 AM
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esp when this child is sent to her room for HOURS where all she does is watches cartoons and play .. |
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| yatesy |
Posted on September 08 2006 11:05 PM
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I never ask for help math wise specifically because I am afraid they will fire me. My last job involved couinting band merchandise in and tyhen out and then collecting the percentage they owed us. I knew I was in trouble the first nite when my boss told me to count in my head instead of under my breath at the end of the nite (they had put me on the bar so I was counting my drawer). Now how would it sound if I would have said "i have a learning disorder, I need to count out loud"?). I was so afraid they would fire em of tey found out that when I went home I had a total panic attack.
I ended up getting fired a few weeks later because 2 bands skipped out without giving me my money and I had not counted fast enough so they were able to slip out.
As for money, I have 47 bucks in the bank right now. I can't seem to save money and my mom keeps telling em she will handle my money for her but I am a 30 year old girl, I should be able to and it is so ahrd for me to say yes to that. Plus, she just keeps saying "you can't count" and its more then that. I guess my financial life is a mess and I have no idea how to fix it and I feel like I never will because I can't deal. |
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| ert |
Posted on September 08 2006 11:40 PM
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yatesy, I know what you mean about the financial stuff. I also know, that you can ask your bank to "hold" your money for you, so your paycheck will be cut in to 2, 3 or 4 pieces. That means, you can choose to get a cut of your paycheck, let's say, every friday. So if you get paid 400 dollars (example) a month, you get 100 dollars every friday, and THEN, you don't have to worry about spending all your money at the beginning of the month.
Did this make any sense? Sorry, it's in the middle of the night here, I really should go to bed
I've thought about doing this, but I think I want to wait until I actually get paid enough to cut my money into pieces (I'm a student). But maybe the fact that I don't have a lot of money it would be a good idea to do that? |
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| GuitarKat |
Posted on September 17 2006 05:35 AM
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Newbie here!
I've had problems. I'm an extremely emotional person and I remember when I had attacks last year (dealing with picas and points and inches), I had to be breathing extremely deep. I've had issues in the past, but have yet to be checked to see if I have it. I think I do. I switch numbers in math (I'm doing binary math right now -- you can only imagaine!)... and well... it's not pleasant, because I make myself read the question 5 times over and even then sometimes I have issues getting the answer.
My teacher says this to me, when I told him I had problems regarding signed binary: "The mechanics are there, but there is no confidence in your answer"
I'm sorry, is it becuase I'm confused half to hell becuase of the steps I have to take to do it... and do it backwards the other night, although I sworn I knew what I was doing, but it was totally wrong, and that's when you explained it about the 500th time in class?
I feel just like breaking down sometimes. It's extremely frustrating.  On exams it's worse -- sometimes I do. |
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| eoffg |
Posted on September 17 2006 10:44 AM
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Hi K@ and welcome to the Forum,
I just had a look at your website, which I found very interesting.
Is that your Hofner base guitar?
Unitary math causes people enough of a problem, so binary sounds like twice as much trouble?
Though it seems that it is remembering the 'order of operations' that is your main difficulty.
Yet the anxiety that this creates, would only add to the difficulty.
But the main question, is how you actually remember the sequence of steps? Or more particularly, whether the way that you remember them, is most effective for recall from Long Term Memory?
Where the information has been stored in Memory, yet recalling it all in the correct sequence is a problem.
Though to recall 'different bits of information in their correct order'.
Requires some sort of 'guide' to find them.
For example, if I would ask you to simply read and then look away and try to recall the following series of words:
chair, lounge, iron, mug, box, sink.
Next, read them again, but then look away and wait about 10 seconds before you try to recall them.
You probably found that you were searching your mind for the words, and that you recalled them in random order.
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Next, I want you to recall them again and in the correct order.
But I want you to do this without looking at the words again.
Though this time, I will give a 'tool' to guide you?
'Climbs'.
This word CLIMBS, has the first letter of each item, and is also the Order of the items.
So without reading the words again, and just using CLIMBS to guide you.
Do you find that you can easily recall the list in their correct order?
K@, maybe in about a week, I might ask you if you can recall the list, and in their correct order?
Yet, you will probably only need to recall 'CLIMBS', and then it will all come back to you.
In regard to your teachers statement:"The mechanics are there, but there is no confidence in your answer"
In a weeks time, once you recall 'CLIMBS', you will have full confidence in your answer.
K@, you might also like to have a look at the thread Seven Styles of Thinking, under the section; Different Ways of Thinking and Learning.
Where it is helpful to recognise your preferred way of thinking/ learning, as an indicator of your best way of storing and recalling information.
Happy climbing,
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| GuitarKat |
Posted on September 17 2006 06:46 PM
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Hi Geoff,
Thanks for the welcome! Yeah, binary is a fun one when it comes to screwing around the numbers... it's worse then normal, yes. I suppose it would be the order of operations of when I do... but, oh, I don't know. Maybe it's everything!
I always forget that I know something. I thought I was going to fail my accounting labs and everything too, but when I went to do the test, it was actually there. I was suprised!  But, then again, there was no pressure as it was at home, and I can take it as many times as I wanted...
I learned music that way, with the EGBDF (every good boy deserves fudge) and ACEG (all cows eat grass). I learned my instruments by muscle memory. I can keyboard with my eyes closed... I have good muscle memory when it comes to instruments and that sort of thing.
I did swimming becuase I didn't really have to be cordinated in a sense. Muscle memory plays again in the technique. I practiced for a while before I was competive.
The 'CLIMBS' method only works if I repeat it about a thousand times. When I meet someone new, I say their name in sentences as much as possible so it's more likely to stick. My auditory learning is what gets me though a lot.
Seven Styles of Thinking, eh? Well, I'll go check that one out.
What I'm more worried about more than anything, my binary math (as that's what I'm calling it now), my instructor, is trying to get me through this with as little pain as possible. I told him on Friday about it when he was wondering about things. I told him. But, he understands becuase he's actually has limited vision. So, he knows how eyes and your brain can play tricks on you. He's thinking of doing less exercises on the board and more on paper for me -- so then it's easier for me to see and understand. It makes a difference somehow. But, he should do both for everyone and himself. I feel so guilty!!! I wish I could do something for him. This was what I was trying to do: http://en.wikiped...complement
As for my website, that Hofner was actually made using Adobe Illustrator. I already have my Graphic Communications cert. I'm just trying to do more education as I still have time.
Thanks for the help, Geoff!
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| Zyperiris |
Posted on October 07 2006 04:30 PM
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I would print out info about what you have. If they have not seen it in print they may think you are making excuses.
Anxiety..who ME?
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