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julie markman
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Posted on June 15 2008 01:31 PM
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Does anybody have this problem....is it a dyscalculic thing??
I have a real problem with decisions about daily living that seem stupid.
For example, I have piles of clothes all over my bedroom, because i cant decide if they should go back in the cupboard or in the wash.
I have so many clothes because I cant bring myself to decide if it is time to get rid of them or not.
I have piles of mail and other paperwork in stacks everywhere, because i cant decide where it should be filed, or if it should be kept or not........
I take forever to do the grocery shopping because I cant decide between things to buy. All shopping can become a nightmare...stuff like that.
Drives my extremely tidy, organised virgo husband to distraction. it drives ME crazy. I almost feel suicidal about it at times!
 
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Posted on June 15 2008 01:54 PM
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I don't know if it has anything to do with dycalculia, but I have some of the same issues with clutter & paperwork. Grocery stores used to be overwhelming, but I was obese at one point, so I started watching what I eat more closely for health reasons (lost over 50 pounds so far). So I do what's called perimeter shopping (produce, dairy for yogurt & skim milk & protein, fish or chicken are all located on the perimeter of most supermarkets, at least in the US). That seems to make it a lot easier than wandering up & down the aisles.

Some people swear by food journaling (recording the calories consumed per day) as an aid to weight loss and urge me to do it. But the thought of keeping track of all the numbers involved in calories & serving sizes makes me want to eat an entire bag of chips! I met with a nutritionist who used some things like a deck of cards, etc. to describe what a portion size should be. I find that & trying for more greens, less processed stuff seems to work better for me than food journaling.
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Posted on June 15 2008 02:52 PM
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Yes, clutter is a problem for me. And the four books I've bought on reducing clutter attest to my concern about it. Very much like you, Julie Markman, I have trouble deciding what to get rid of. I saw 'organization' mentioned in our symptoms a couple of weeks ago, and everything made sense. Ironically, if I'm given a limited space, such as designing a travel trailer, I can make an excellent plan. I just have trouble deciding what to get rid of in clothes, books, sewing left-overs, old receipts, old bills.
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Posted on June 15 2008 03:43 PM
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Hi Julie Smile

What you describe is called procrastination. Everyone (dyscalculic or not, LD or not) procrastinate every now and then, some more than others. Procrastination can be the consequence of many different things...

For some people, they dread so much doing a given task that they put it off until later and later and later.

Other people feel so overwhelmed by the complexity or by the size of the task they must do, that they don't find the courage to get started and/or that they don't know where to begin (lack of organisationalskills fall in that cathegory)

Yet again, another very common cause of procrastination is perfectionism. Some people are so perfectionist that they rather avoid completing a task if they can't accomplish it to perfection.

Whichever the reason, procrastination in many instance is the result of some kind of fear, anxiety or aversion.

I posted a List of online tests/Quiz some time ago. There are a few quizzes about organisation and procrastination and there's one among other, called: "What kind of procrastinator are you?" you might find that usefull - Finding out under what kind of situations one procrastinates is the beginning of the answer as one can then begin to make changes in his/her lifestyle.
It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer -- Albert Einstein
 
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Posted on June 15 2008 09:35 PM
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julie markman you sound like the spitting image of me! Even down to the "extremely tidy, organised virgo husband" (except mine hasn't yet married me...he still has time to escape!).

If it's not to do with the dyscalculia then I must have some else that makes me even weirder.... I mean "normal"
 
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Ahhhhhhh! Procrastination AND perfectionism are ringing very large bells.
What a shame....thought if my brain just didn't sort those things out, I'd have a legitimate excuse. Damn!......hubby is right then....sigh!

LIsa...very helpful on the food thing too. I can never work out calories,or such like.
Well...off to do on-line quiz to see about all my failings. eeeeek!
 
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Posted on June 15 2008 10:30 PM
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pinkymoo..............dont let the potential virgo go! Mine does all the shopping now, 'cause he cant stand going round the supermarket with me. Very useful. We can sort of compromise on the uncluttered kitchen surfaces now....ie if it drives him mad, he clears it, and I try not to feel guilty anymore!!
 
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Posted on June 16 2008 01:29 PM
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Ok, is there a place where one can obtain an extremely tidy, organized virgo husband (or wife, if that's one's orientation)? Where do I sign up, I could sure use one! Grin

I've just now gotten around to putting away some of the stuff that I used during vacation (suitcases, cooler). And I still left out a suitcase that I'll be using for a trip next month. Mind you, I've been back for a week from the vacation (the one which required map reading which led me to the research which brought me here). Mainly, I was inspired by this thread. And I tackled some papers as well. Next week, maybe the closets & some of the clothes.
 
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[quote]Lisa_ wrote:
Ok, is there a place where one can obtain an extremely tWinkidy, organized virgo husband (or wife, if that's one's orientation)? Where do I sign up, I could sure use one! Grin


I found my vigo hubby at a creative writing night class at our local junior college. Give it a shot! Worked for me!
Interesting though...do LD people find themselves attracted to very organized non-LD people??

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Posted on June 16 2008 09:53 PM
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That's me. 100%. I never get anything done.

Sometimes I HAVE to do stuff, and then I just let chance make the decisions - I throw a coin.

Absolutely crazy that I have to do that. But it helps.

Also, I love those shops where you pick your own candy and mix it, but I can never make any decisions in that situation, so I started shopping in themes. So one time I buy all red candy, one time all green, one time just animal shapes, one time... you get it. Hopefully.

I never really put it together with dyscalculia, but I think it's an ADD/ADHD thing. And it's the biggest reason to why I kind of think I have ADD.
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Posted on June 17 2008 10:32 AM
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I tend to be very organized, to the point of getting annoyed if something is not where it should be. Blue shirts together, pens and drawing pencils all separate, books by subject.
I am not sure if I would make a good husband or not but I would be good to live with. ( what's a virgo husband? as in the zodiac sign?)
Heck, I also cook very well Grin.
I think I do all this because if I don't, keys get lost, accounts at work get messed and life gets chaotic.

This is part of life I can control.
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Posted on June 17 2008 09:14 PM
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Oh boy! So, by the sounds of it, I should just give up now. I seem to be fitting into all these categories.
Lisa......meet the BIGGEST "cant pack or unpack person" ever.
I have always traveled a lot, and should by now be able to pack and unpack with my eyes closed, but it is alway left till the very last minute before leaving, and on return, the case sits open and staring at me for weeks.
ert........meet a fellow coin tosser!....and themes.......hmmm I'm right into themes of all sorts.
rev blamo.....when I do get around to being organised in any category, it is in that way..everything matching.
Some days I feel I can accept all these things about me, knowing there are positive traits in there as well and other days I feel I want to take to my bed and never get up.
I teach a yoga class, and last night, I panicked in the middle of the lesson as I thought I'd somehow run out of time, but not done all the things "planned". I ended up hurriedly doing the relaxation bit and had them ready to go, only to have them inform me we still had half an hour to go............this time and clock thing!!!!!! sigh
 
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Posted on June 17 2008 11:41 PM
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OH....packing for a trip...I start with lists, several. One for what to bring, another for what needs to be bought and if it is a camping trip, a menu and grocery list. The lists are assembled on my drawing table then all the lists go into a folder with printouts of the reservations.
All this starts weeks before I go.
"I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused..."
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I feel better now, lists are the only way I manage to pack. I also have a list of things that need to get done while away (e.g. ask the neighbor for mail, set light on timer).
 
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Not sure if it merits its own thread, and since it deals with choosing which things to pay attention too, thought I'd add it on here. This may be a personality quirk completely unrelated to dycalculia, but does anyone else have trouble with sensory overload? For example, I hate malls and casinos because I find them overwhelming. I do a lot of shopping online and when I need to go to the mall, I'll strategically pick out the stores I need & tackle accordingly.

Casinos, I generally tend to avoid because I find with the numbers & sensory overload, they're pretty much my personal idea of hell! Shock I even find tourist sites like Times Square & Bourbon Street kind of overwhelming because of all the noise/light. Even vendor exhibits for work can be tough (I use the mall strategy & find out which ones I definitely want to see to plot my course). We're going to be moving closer to Times Sq. for work. I think that will make me better about bringing my lunch from home! Grin

And even though it's auditory and not visual, I can't handle a lot of background noise. I find it distracting and when there are multiple conversations going on, I find it really hard to follow one in particular.
 
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Ditto.
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Wow Lisa, that is so much my situation, but for me it's not Dysc. but I am told is is part of Asperger's ( but then again, as I am told Dysc. is part of that too.)
I avoid parties with a lot of people (esp. if i don't know most of them)
Christmas shopping is Hellish. I can feel the stress build.
During my brother's wedding I sat quietly and avoided most everyone, my then girlfriend thought I was mad at her.
"I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused..."
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Posted on June 19 2008 11:11 AM
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Yeah, I've had people ask what's wrong because I'm normally chatty & I just want to shut down in those type of environments. Or worse, I get irritable and snappy. It's pretty social where I work and they host all of these nice events with food, drinks & sometimes music. While they can be fun, they're a bit daunting with the name/face thing and all of the cross conversations.

Plus doing the food/cocktail juggling thing, which I've never been good at. But on the bright side, some of the conversations become my cue to remember someone's name. Just as I'll see someone in the elevator, remember the request I did for them and then see myself typing their e-mail, I'll see someone, remember the conversation and then remember someone introducing them to me. But I don't directly remember the name, I remember the topic of conversation first.
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Posted on June 24 2008 03:30 AM
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Hi, my name is Electrogirl, and I'm a procrastinator... >.> You should see my desk. I swear the bottom layers must have fossilized by now. One thing that helped me keep my floor clean, though, was adopting my cats! Can't leave anything on the floor now unless I want it to turn into a kitty toy. Wink

You guys get the sensory overload too? I hate big parties, both because of the overstimulation and because I'm so bad at remembering names/faces. Never been clubbing; the very thought makes me cringe. Sometimes, if I've been stuck in an overstimulating environment for too long, the general discomfort turns into a panic attack. I have to leave immediately and go somewhere quiet and dark, like you would for a migraine.
 
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Posted on June 30 2008 01:13 AM
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julie markman wrote:
pinkymoo..............dont let the potential virgo go! Mine does all the shopping now, 'cause he cant stand going round the supermarket with me. Very useful. We can sort of compromise on the uncluttered kitchen surfaces now....ie if it drives him mad, he clears it, and I try not to feel guilty anymore!!


Lol I'm trying my best not too. I've managed to keep a hold of him for 2 years now all be it from a great distance given we live at opposite ends of the country. Mine shops for himself but he lives with his parents so he has his washing and ironing and making of beds and things done by his mum and the cooking part to a certain extent too. He does cook but it's not neccessarily in the creating from scratch. It's more of a bung something in a plastic tray in the microwave kind of thing.

Lisa_ wrote:
Ok, is there a place where one can obtain an extremely tidy, organized virgo husband (or wife, if that's one's orientation)? Where do I sign up, I could sure use one! Grin


I found mine online on a forum I was posting on. Who knows you might spot someone on here takes your fancy!

Either that or put a search in google for single, tidy and organised Virgo's! Grin


Maybe procrastination is a symptom of dyscalculia.

I should probably type up the procrastinators creed for us that I found on the net years ago, and haven't been able to locate since, that I have stuck to my bedroom door.......when i can be bothered to!
 
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