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Fantasies (no not that kind!)
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| Kyla Dilla |
Posted on September 26 2006 04:43 PM
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i daydream in maths class, although i never meant to do it. I get bored and think of something else, and i go " what was the teacher saying again??'' ayaya.. Trying to Focus really hard in class sometimes equals to daydreaming.
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| TheatreLvr08 |
Posted on September 26 2006 07:31 PM
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I pretty much live in my head. Honestly. I have this obsession with the Victorian era, and I'm always imagining that I live back then. And I always imagine that I'm onstage in whatever show I happen to be obsessed with at the moment.
It has become even worse since July, when I heard that my favorite book was going to be made into a movie and it hasn't been cast yet. I am so determined to play the main character, Gemma, because I've wanted to play her for years. So I'm always thinking how I would do this scene or say that line.
I usually don't move my lips to what I'm saying or talk out loud unless I mean to. When I'm saying or rehearsing lines, I say them very quietly under my breath.
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| Freda |
Posted on September 26 2006 07:39 PM
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I only get this when a story idea hits me. (used to happen a LOT more.. when I watched movies/read a ton) I'll then proceed to plan out characters, their life stories, plot, every detail of every scene, and forget it by the time I get home.
If I start dreaming, my pen usually ends up finding it's way to a paper and so the doodling begins.
I'm working on getting this under control, because if I lose focus for even a minute, I can't get it back the entire class period and/or hour.
It's slowed down at the moment though, because I never have time to let my brain free.. always school, school, school. |
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| dawn |
Posted on September 28 2006 09:06 PM
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check out Toe nails entry in the hypnosis thread ( see newest threads) is this the type of daydreaming you mean |
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| Freda |
Posted on September 28 2006 09:15 PM
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Can't say that's it for me |
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| OneOutofOrderScrooball |
Posted on October 03 2006 02:26 AM
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Hey Everyone, Gosh, I never realized there might be others like I am in this area, too! For as long as I can remember I have always lived in a rich fantasy world that in some weird context crosses and mingles with my every day world. It's almost like acting a part in some play or something or becoming a character in some unwritten book. Needless to say I'm sure to others it's as if I'm zoning out especially when I'm on autopilot or staring off into space. Even so I think having this type of fantasy life has enriched my life immeasurably. I even dream at night in color. Still it makes one wonder do we create our rich fantasy lives as a protective barrier against the hurts we've suffered because of being dyscalculiac or is it something more intangible creative force at work because of our brains being wired differently? Thank you, Bubble for bringing to light something I've done for many years and never told anyone.  This is just one more great thing about this forum. we can speak our minds and be whole-heartedly accepted for who we are without someone laughing or ridiculing us. sign me, OneOutofOrderScrewball |
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| Tina |
Posted on October 03 2006 04:58 AM
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Dreaming and imagining things, that's what I do best. I need a lot of time alone, maybe because I need to dream in peace....
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| eoffg |
Posted on October 04 2006 07:48 AM
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As Alice said when she was in Wonderland:
'He was a part of my dream, of course, but then I was a part of his dream."
WOndeRLanD
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| dawn |
Posted on October 16 2006 08:45 PM
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The gift of learning by ronald davis describes your vivid fantasies really well . Quote coming! " Picture-thinkers often indulge in long-term disorientation for the purpose of self-entertainment. Disorientation can throw the doors to inner fantasy wide open. A child may discover this capability while still an infant. With this discovery comes the alternate world of imagination and creativity, a world bounded only by the child's own itellect and own creativity. To him this is a world without bounds or consequences. The stream of consequences experienced by others in the real world is partly replaced by a continuous stream of creative imagination within the imaginary world, where he is the central figure.
Everyone has experienced this sort of alternative reality during particularly vivid dreams. A picture thinker has daydreams or 'waking dreams' that are just as vivid. However they don't fit the model of an ordinary dream because the state of disorientation allows the dream to be experienced as reality. Disorientation also allows the person to interact with the alternate reality."
He goes on further, but I think this is exactly what you are describing. His whole theory of dyslexia/dyscalculia is based on disorientation and so he offers a treatment technique to allow a person to reorientate the wonky bits....to use a technical term. |
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| eoffg |
Posted on October 17 2006 08:55 AM
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Dawn, I must say that I was disgusted by Davis' adoption of the word ; 'disorientation' to define Dyslexia!
Given that 'disorientation' means confusion.
So is he suggesting that Dyslexics have a 'confused mind'?
Though their is lot of money to be made from confusion?
If it Quacks like a duck,...?
Dawn, I moved your other thread to Parents, for you.
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| denideni |
Posted on October 17 2006 08:31 PM
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Hello everyone,
I'm new here. I don't even know for sure that I have dyscalculia, but from what I've been reading I'm fairly sure I am - I seem to fit every symptom!!
I'm interested in this thread as I do this too. I often find that I've been talking to myself for a good length of time before I "wake up" to what I'm doing. TIP: Bluetooth headphones for mobile phones are good when you're out in public - you can pretend to be talking hands free!!
I'm also very worried. I have a 5 year old girl who's only problem in school so far is that (and I quote) "she disapears into a world of her own" and loses track of what is going on in class.
"I talk to me, I even agree" - Blondie 1979. |
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| dawn |
Posted on October 17 2006 09:39 PM
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Geoff, calm down! 'Disorientation' is just Davis's theory which obviously is different to your own. However, please read his book before you have such vehement opposition to his views- after all it is one of the most read books by dyslexics. Dismiss it if you like, but it is worth looking at, I think, you could read the book in 2 evenings. As you see from my other posts,I have a very healthy sceptism of most of these remedies, but I remain open minded.
I'll abridge his explanation of disorientation as he goes on for pages:
"Natural orientation has 2 aspects- consistency and accuracy of perception . A natural orientation does produce a consistant perception but not necessarily an accurate one eg one persons perception of red may be different to another persons. Disorientation is experienced by everyone to varying degrees eg alcohol or sitting in a stationary car and the neighbouring car moves giving the false perception that you are moving- he describes the Beta Apparent Phenomenon. .A simple experiment to ascertain if disorientation in a dyslexic and a non-dyslexic are the same was carried out by rotating a board with a spiral picture on a turn table .no one could tell how fast the disc was spinning, nor tell the passage of time ,nor repeat tongue twisters, nor maintain balance, some were nauseated. The dyslexic students all immediately recognised the distortions as similar if not identical to those experienced while reading. All the symptoms of reading dyslexia were the same as disorientation. When a dyslexic becomes sufficiently confused he will disorientate spontaneously without noticing it." He goes on to say " this is not the case with ADD and maths dyslexia or handwriting problems. For them the effects of disorientation happen long before school age. during development the natural state of orientation and the mental function of disorientation, working together, distort some children's perception of their environment to the degree that they develop an alternate reality or concept of essential life lessons such as consequence, cause and effect and change. the establishment of this can lead to ADD and to some degree maths dyslexia and handwriting problems"
"disorientatin for long periods ,or even for multiple short periods, will distort the perception of time so that the sense of time is not uniform minute by minute, second by second etc. if there is no sense of time then an accurate concept of sequence can't develop and with no timing or sequence then the concepts of order and consequence will under develop "
Now, Geoff, I'm the messenger so don't shoot me . O.K? Have you got long range missiles???? It's a theory . You'll probably find it interesting.That's all.
Dawn PS where did the statistic 4-6% of population are dyscalculic come from please?
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| dawn |
Posted on October 17 2006 09:45 PM
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Deneice, I don't want to be alarmist but please check if your daughter is wetting herself when she is in "her own world", because she may be doing anything from simply daydreaming to having petit mal absences which is often associated with wetting . The person seems to blank over for a short time then come to and carry on as though no time elapsed.If that is the case see your doctor.Just trying to think laterally |
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| Admin |
Posted on October 17 2006 10:44 PM
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dawn wrote:PS where did the statistic 4-6% of population are dyscalculic come from please?
2 studies; 1: Lewis, Hitch & Walker 1994 (3.6%). 2: Gross-Tsur, Manor & Shalev 1996 (6.5%). |
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| JSR |
Posted on October 19 2006 07:45 PM
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yup, this is exactly what i do too! i often snap out of it randomly and worry i've been talking out loud! in terms of mental awareness, i'm very rarely where i'm supposed to be! |
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| karalyeva2 |
Posted on November 02 2006 08:48 AM
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I have really weird dreams sometimes too, but it is my daydreaming that is most vivid. I will make up situations in my head and just play them out--sometimes whispering out loud so that I can really listen to them. I do it a lot, usually several times each day without thinking about it, and it is really a part of me that I am proud of. It shows that my imagination was not lost in childhood
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| Bubble |
Posted on November 20 2006 08:46 PM
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I started this thread so now i will add a bit more....
My first memories of school are of me just sitting in a class (I would have been 5 or 6) and just being completely disconnected from everything going on around me. I was "off in my own little world" as a lot of teachers put it throughout school.
I have since come to believe that i had mild autism, I can remember "coming to" around the time i started secondary school and realising that i could talk to other people. That probably sounds like i was just shy, but it was more than that.
So i just wanted to share that with everyone. If anyone else had similar experiences let me know. I haven't been on the site for ages cos I work pretty long hours these days but i'm going to make an effort to be here more from now on.
Let me know about your experiences
PS I've just realised that this seems like it has nothing to do with daydreaming/fantasising but its all connected in my world, so i want to see if anyone else had/has it too.
Thanks x
Edited by Bubble on November 20 2006 08:48 PM
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| CoateRack |
Posted on November 21 2006 02:59 AM
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This is SO freaky. I totally do that ALL the time. I plan out future events and do the "he said she said then i said" thing and all of it. And the thing with the TV being on and staring at it, but having no idea what was going on? TOTALLY do that.
I remember when I was ten or eleven my grampy would pick me up from school everyday after school, and he'd turn on the TV. I'd get a book, and I'd have the book in front of me, the TV on, and I'd zone out. But I'd still be "reading" in that I"d be turning pages. But when I'd "snap" out of the little mini movie in my head, I'd have no idea what was happeniing in the book or on the TV.
If wisdom's ways you wisely seek, five things observe with care: to whom you speak, of whom you speak, of how, and why, and where. |
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| TheatreLvr08 |
Posted on November 21 2006 03:59 PM
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I do that! Not so much with books, but sometimes with TV. The big thing though, is tapes. At night I like to listen to books on tape. It gets kind of annoying in the morning to have to rfewind it and find the right spot (why I'm starting to favor books on CD more), but I'll zone out just thinking about stuff or day dreaming. I don't really realize it because the books on tape that I get, i know so well that I never feel like i missed something. But I'll rewind it in the morning and listen while I'm doing my hair and think, "I didn't hear that part last night... but I heaard the part after it... what was I doing?"
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| ert |
Posted on November 21 2006 06:39 PM
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Katie - have you looked into Nonverbal Learning Disorder? I know I'm not autistic and I know I don't have aspergers, but I do have a lot of NLD signs. And ADD and a couple of other things. They all kind of melt into one and overlap, and some I only fit in some parts of, so I have no idea what it could be... And honestly it's more than enough to be dyscalculic right now, so I'm not sure I want to find out just yet.
But I know something else is there, and that I need to understand it before I can do something about my patterns. Bad patterns, like living in my head when I shouldn't be. I'm like you when it comes to living in my own little world - without being shy and all that.
NLD: http://www.nldont...guay_3.htm |
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