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joyrjw
Posted on December 28 2010 06:22 AM
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It's kind of ironic.Pfft I just realized that "one" of the symptoms of Dyscalculia is .....

http://www.medind...mptoms.htm

May be unable to comprehend mechanical processes; Victim may be unable to visualize the larger picture. Portrays deficiency in visualization- may be unable to visualize the location of the numbers on the face of a clock, the geographical locations of states, countries, oceans, and streets. Poor memory for the layout of things with a tendency to get lost or disoriented easily; may have a poor sense of direction, lose things often, and seem absent minded.
Love many things, for therein lies the true strength, and whosoever loves much performs much, and can accomplish much, and what is done in love is done well.

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joyrjw
Posted on December 28 2010 06:30 AM
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I also just found this about Dyslexia...kind of interesting...

Running daydreams: A process of always rapidly creating in your mind, so you never hear what others really say, or you forget what they say. Therefore, you can't hear or see things around you accurately.


Disorientation: The imagination starts running when something "triggers" you. You become spacey; you "drift" and make mistakes. It can be seen in your eyes and felt inside. Triggers can be written or spoken words, movement, confusion, sounds, people, exhaustion, sensitivities, emotions, hunger, fear, etc. Thus, dyslexia affects your life and the lives of those around you.

http://www.dyslex...erence.htm
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RottieWoman
Posted on December 28 2010 02:35 PM
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joy, that is very interesting....I have great difficulty with spatial orientation, which causes issues in martial arts, which I enjoy. Even if I see a movement, I often have great difficulty copying it - and I'm VERY much a visual learner. I tend to think in pictures and if you were to tell me that movement in an attempt for me to learn it, I'd be like huh?
My husband, who I think could have non-verbal LD or Asberger's, is VERY technical, VERY detail-oriented, logical and a gifted thinker in terms of that - BUT has no sense of spatial orientation or direction at ALL and gets lost in places he's been in already, all the time - turning the wrong way to get home, losing the exit etc.

-though, I don't agree with the wording "victim"

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Edited by RottieWoman on December 28 2010 02:36 PM
 
joyrjw
Posted on December 28 2010 10:31 PM
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Pfft
RottieWoman wrote:
joy, that is very interesting....I have great difficulty with spatial orientation, which causes issues in martial arts, which I enjoy. Even if I see a movement, I often have great difficulty copying it - and I'm VERY much a visual learner. I tend to think in pictures and if you were to tell me that movement in an attempt for me to learn it, I'd be like huh?
My husband, who I think could have non-verbal LD or Asberger's, is VERY technical, VERY detail-oriented, logical and a gifted thinker in terms of that - BUT has no sense of spatial orientation or direction at ALL and gets lost in places he's been in already, all the time - turning the wrong way to get home, losing the exit etc.

-though, I don't agree with the wording "victim"

Smile


It's kind of odd huh?
Smile I thought that with all these people,including me,with such a rich imagination and ability to think in pictures and/or the ability to visualize, that there might be a connection to dyslexia that "they're" scientifically missing....even the people with discalculia seem to have a knack for words.

I dream in color and surround soundSmile and I guess that's a trait of visual learners.

Do you do that....dream in color?
I hope that's not too much a personal question.

I have trouble learning aerobics steps in classes and group situations like that,even though I'm a visual/kinesthetic learner. . I can definitely understand.Smile
Martial arts classes would be fun. Cool

I have trouble with spatial orientation as well. I get lost easily and I have no sense of direction. Don't ask me to read and/or remember street signs. Pfft I have a friend who's dyslexic and he was teasing me because I didn't know what the name of the street I was on,but I could tell him the land marks. He said "I can't even read what the names of the street signs are!" Pfft

Though my difficulties doen't seem as bad as it used to be.

Your husband sounds like he's got some Cool strengths. So, he's left brained and your right brained perhaps and maybe you two balance one another out? Smile

My 15 year old step son has high functioning Autism and he's a very linear thinker,but he loves to play with lego'sSmile and is pretty good on a computer.

He also tends to have an extremely vivid personal fantasy world,but he doesn't try to hide it. He'll be sitting there watching t.v and you would be able to watch him mentally acting out whatever situation he's imagining in his head especially since he talks to himself.Smile He also used to jump in front of the t.v and act out the movie scenes because he would get so excited by the movie.

Anyway, I'm rambling.... *blush in embarassment*

I found some information on Spatial intelligence and Visual intelligence. I'll post the full information on here too.

I hope I'm not being a ....what's that called?....thread hyjacker? Or something like that.

Should I open this subject in another area I wonder?


http://www.wisege...igence.htm

http://homeworkti...gstyle.htm

I apologize of this all fragmented. My brain isn't quite working correctly today.
Love many things, for therein lies the true strength, and whosoever loves much performs much, and can accomplish much, and what is done in love is done well.

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joyrjw
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Visual Learner Characteristics

Visual learners are those who learn through seeing things. Look over the characteristics below to see if they sound familiar. A visual learner:
Is good at spelling but forgets names.

Needs quiet study time.

Has to think awhile before understanding lecture.

Is good at spelling.

Likes colors & fashion.

Dreams in color.

Understands/likes charts.

Is good with sign language.
Learning Suggestions for Visual Learners

Draw a map of events in history or draw scientific process.

Make outlines of everything!

Copy what's on the board.

Ask the teacher to diagram.

Diagram sentences!

Take notes, make lists.

Watch videos.

Color code words, research notes.

Outline reading.

Use flashcards.

Use highlighters, circle words, underline.
Best Test Type for Visual Learners:

Diagramming, reading maps, essays (if you've studied using an outline), showing a process

Worst test type:

Listen and respond tests
Love many things, for therein lies the true strength, and whosoever loves much performs much, and can accomplish much, and what is done in love is done well.

- Vincent van Gogh
 
joyrjw
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Spatial intelligence is the ability to comprehend three-dimensional images and shapes. It involves interpreting dimensions of space that cannot be seen. Visual spatial intelligence activities include putting together a puzzle or sculpture. This type of intelligence stems from the right side of the brain, and injuries or strokes to this part of the brain may diminish its ability to identify where a person is. Although they can still see the person because vision is usually not impeded, the person's location in space is blurred because of the brain’s blockage of spatial intelligence.

Visual-spatial intelligence is typically studied together with sight, although the determination of spatial ability and visual acuity are very different. For example, a blind person can still identify a shape, despite an inability to see it. Although there is a connection between visual and spatial intelligence, each is an independent component of a person’s intellect.

Spatial intelligences rely largely on people’s abilities to picture the shapes and spaces of objects in their minds; it is the ability to retain the form of something in the mind’s eye. This type of thinking allows somebody to know where he or she is in space and to picture the world. It also comes in handy for navigation, as sailors with compasses must use spatial intelligence to navigate the seas by following the stars and sun.

A person who has an easy time picturing the world from an observer’s viewpoint—who perhaps even does it often without thinking—will have higher spatial intelligence than someone who finds it difficult to think about life this way. The highest visual spatial intelligences result from unique abilities to take up different positions in the mind’s eye, such as a fly on the wall or a person standing behind a curtain. Those who have high spatial intelligences usually do best in arts or science fields. Artists, architects, physicists, navigators, chess players, designers and filmmakers are some careers that those with high spatial intelligences are often drawn to and excel at.

Spatial IntelligenceSpatial Visual IntelligenceGardner IntelligenceSpatial AbilitySpatial AwarenessLinguistic IntelligenceHoward Gardner Intelligence
Those who have high spatial intelligences are likely to enjoy art, navigate and read maps well, imagine things very vividly, use metaphors, talk fast and look at the big picture. These people are often referred to as visual learners, and they often possess photographic memories, retaining images more easily than words. They think in pictures and prefer to have video accompaniment to any verbal instruction. A spatial intelligence test can be taken to determine individual strength in this area. Multiple activities can be performed to strengthen this type of intelligence, including mind-mapping, visualization scenarios, creating and watching videos, using computer graphics, posters, flash cards and symbols, doodling, making diagrams and maps, taking photographs, estimating distances and visualizing structures.
Love many things, for therein lies the true strength, and whosoever loves much performs much, and can accomplish much, and what is done in love is done well.

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RottieWoman
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hi joy - wow, very intriguing Smile
yup, I can dream in color; am also a lucid dreamer and have been known to dream in different languages.

I've lived here for 12 years and have no idea of the names of most of the side streets of how to to get to house. I use landmarks and pictures and if someone needs directions they have to talk to my husband, who can talk about "feet" and compass directions easily.

That is good observation about how hubby and I balance each other. We do that in interaction all the time. If we have workers at the house for something, the scheduling is arranged by me, including working around the three dogs - but discussion about figures/estimates/directions is something he takes care of.
If we're together ordering in a restaurant and I ask what size a portion is and am told a number, he shows me. Both of us have hearing loss - he is deaf without HA's<hearing aids - Congenital Rubella Syndrome> and I'm new hard of hearing <sign some> so whoever hears something better tells the other one.

Your step-son seems like a neat person and his description reminds me of my husbandSmile Hubby is a computer programmer/security/network admin.
Edited by RottieWoman on December 28 2010 11:20 PM
 
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Hubby also does very well with mechanics of things, putting stuff together, engineering, diagrams. I'm horrible at that.
I do well with languages, social sciences, intuition, visual arts, note-taking < much of my passing or "decent" grades in any of the math classes I've managed in was not because I understood anything, but because much of the grade was based on notes and attendance, and I do well there- I can write quickly and take notes that look great but it all means nothing to me>.
Edited by RottieWoman on December 28 2010 11:25 PM
 
joyrjw
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Hi RottieWomanSmile

That's really Cool

I can't even lucid dream and you dream in different languages to boot...that's truly amazing and unique....unique is good.

Oh,this is kind of funny, I've sang in my sleep a few timesPfft

I know this is a completely different topic, but you must be psychic too then huh?

That is really nice of you to say. Thank you for telling me that. I don't feel nearly so alone....Knowing that you have the same difficulty with street signs and you use landmarks and pictures too. Smile

I'm the same way. My husband has to give people directions too.Smile

He also is really good with measurements,feet etc.but he's more balanced mentally, I think, though he hates computers. Pfft

Thank you again.Smile I've met people before who seem to play off one another well, one left one right, so they could meet in the middle. Too me, it seems like a romantic concept.
That's really cool....The way that you two interact with one another....it sounds really, for a lack of a better word, healthy. Smile

I feel bad for you both though...with your being hoh and all.
I'm glad that you can help one another with it.


That may be what he becomes one day....he's got the kind of mind for computers.

I hope he does something like that.....

What your hubby does sounds like it would both fun and complex.
That's what my hubby wants to do...auronatical engineering....he's in college for it at the moment.
So that's both interesting and cool. Cool

I'm ok as far as taking things apart and putting them back together....when I have the courage....as long as I don't have to perform alot of math, of course, and I'm allowed to play it by ear. but like yourself, I wouldn't be good at engineering and possibly diagrams.

You're really luckySmile I'm terrible with learning languages...I've always wanted to learn....I don't know why....I'm ok with american words....but like yourself I'm good at social sciences, visual arts(going to college for Graphic Design/Art) and I'm fairly intuitive.
I'm not very quick with note taking...for some reason I can't write as quickly as some..... but I don't know short hand either

That's very interesting, we have quite a few things that sinc up. Smile
Love many things, for therein lies the true strength, and whosoever loves much performs much, and can accomplish much, and what is done in love is done well.

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hi joy!

ahhhh, don't feel bad for me!Smile Being hard of hearing is not an illness or a problem. Being hard of hearing - though mild - gives me a different perspective and more ability to access a culture which is Deafness. Deafness is not a disability.

yup, seems like we do share many similarities. The commonalities of visual arts, social sciences, our husbands who assist us....I went to arts specialty high school. It required an audition -in one's art area - to get in. I went for visual art. I've always loved to draw animals and when I was a child, I'd sit for hours and draws horses and dogs, and landscapes. I got in trouble in gym class in middle or high school for drawing horses and refusing to participate in volleyball, which - like most team sports - I was terrible at because I didn't understand the rules, sequence, orientation, was clumsy and always scared because I was bullied.
So I went to arts high school to stay alive. Most of the students went there because they were extremely talented and serious about art, or music, or dance, or theater and they wanted to show in galleries, dance on Broadway, etc. A toned-down version of the 80's show "Fame", if you are familiar.
 
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areo. engineering - looks like something cool, especially for my husband, who flies RC <radio control>and generally loves to fly full-scale; he's had a chance to "fly" a helicopter through his RC club. Hubby will tell you he probably shoulda been in engineering for college major, but he didn't know about the difference between computer science - which is more technical - and computer info. systems , which is more the admin/.sales side - less "hands-on", building, though also technical. The two were different majors at the university we attended. He went to tech school prior for a couple of years and tested out of most of the courses there.

You seem like very a open-minded and compassionate person and your step-son is lucky to have that in you, as available to himSmile

I don't tend to dream in different languages, in color and lucidly all at the same time though-

Thank YOU for all your kindness in your responseSmile

as far as being psychic, I tend to be; my aunt, my mom and my dad are all that way in varying degrees. But it's not the kind of "obvious" or "full-on" ideal or fantasy you may see in a science fiction program. It's more subtle.
My dad has a story he tells about how before I was born - before they even knew I was coming <they had been told it wasn't possible and they were in their late 30's when they stopped really trying; I was born very prematurely and was in NICU for a few months> - as I was writing, before they even knew I was coming, my dad had a vision of a toddler, a little girl, wearing a red dress which I later had, walking toward him, saying "hi daddy".
My aunt has seen ghosts, she can also see auras.
 
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Nicola wrote:
I do that too!!! At school it just used to be called "daydreaming" Grin

But oh yeah, I frequently create, I suppose the only way to describe them, is mini-films, with me starring of course Grin and full scripts etc. I always thought it was just because I have a vivid imagination...!



I do this all the time...I kind of thought I was a little crazy...but at least its not only me!!Grin
 
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I Lucid dream sometimes, an amazing experience once you do it you can start to control the turnout of a particular dream.Smile
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And this bird, you'll can not change"
 
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RottieWoman wrote:
My aunt has seen ghosts, she can also see auras.


Pretty much everybody in my family has seen ghosts, my great grandfather lived with the ghost of his younger sister that died when she was a child. My nan tells stories about how the girl ghost would roam around the house like a normal child and how they would feed her sugar sometimes Pfft of course it was only my great grandfather who could see her, so sometimes he would scorn my nan and her sisters for stepping on her toes Pfft

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It really is quite interesting to see that so many people on this site are really creative!
I'm a writer myself, hoping to get my first book released sometime in the fall. If dyscalculia cut off my practical side, I'm quite thankful because it enabled my creative side to flourish Grin
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As of late, I've been dreaming in multiple senses: touch, audio, visual, and smell. It's been kind of interesting, though sometimes, rather annoying, because I react in my dreams and wake up in a bad position, and after being in a neck brace as the result of a car accident last year, I've been rather sore. The dreams are usually pretty pleasant, but I do wish I didn't have the touch part, as I think my neck would do better. :/
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A friend told me i should get into writing just because of this ability... I'm going to try and see if i can articulate my imaginings onto paper.
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Yeah, I do that... I never really thought about why though, I assumed it was just me. I act out situations, not just in my head, but physically act them out. Especially if I've had an argument, for example... I'll act out what i SHOULD have said to the person i was arguing with for hours after the argument has finished.
 
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Ha! That's how I ended up becoming a writer!
 
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Loving this thread!! Its really interesting.
I thought everyone acts out stuff in their head all the time, i have always done this and am considered "creative". I paint, draw and write. I have always been good at coming up with ideas and was always in demand in drama classes as altho I CANNOT act at all, I can come up with a scenario and develop it every single time Im asked. I have never, so far, run out of ideas. im always picked for interactive forums at work etc as I'll always come up with suggestions or ideas. I never thought anything of this til I read this thread. My ex was seriously into quantum physics and scientific theories and would put them by me to see what I came up with, I never understood any of the science of the theories but I could still run with them.
Now, this next bit might sound weird but Im not fazed by anything odd. I kind of accept everything for what it is. So if I walked by a fruit stall and an orange started to talk to me, I would talk back to it politely. This happened btw, it was a prank, but I just accepted it as normal. Magic doesnt work on me either, im not amazed by levitation, Im simply curious and happy for the magician able to levitate. I have had people describe me as naive and childlike in this sense, but I dont think I am , I think its to do with having a big imagination.
 
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omg!! Im 11, and I have the exact same thing, somethimes ill be thinking about having a conversation with someone and I end up ither saying the words or mouthing them. People think I am retarded (literally) I also find that when Im reading a book, I read the same line like 4 or 5 times without realising, so I have to read using my finger, at first I thought I had bad eyesight, but it turns out the its a symptom of dyscalculia, oh, and I struggle reading a book, because I have trouble remember the facts like, Theres a girl named jill, and when the book mentions "jill" im like... uh, whos Jill? Its soooo freakin' anoying!!!! And when I am having a conversation, Ill be doing back-story, like giving people the facts, and I could be doing this for ten minuets or so, and once im done giving the back story... I forget the point that I was trying to make... and also... do you ever run out of words to use, like for exsample " a b c d e f g h i j... um... uh... um............ never mind" as if you speak a forein language?????? Shock
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