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Math courses labelled as Psychology and Sociology
mathmustdie
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Posted on July 06 2012 08:15 PM
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Hi Smile
Unfortunately I still have that required math class hanging over me after my waiver got rejected. I have been continuing getting classes out of the way while trying to figure out a plan...

I checked up on the "approved math courses" and noticed that two classes were added (at least I think they are "new" because I didn't notice them before? Or I forgot about it...) but they are considered psychology and sociology classes. The sociology one is called "Introduction to Social Statistics" . I looked up the description...and it said something like "analyzing data using (insert name of program) of sociology surveys" etc. This made me feel like you just look at survey results...but of course, it also seems TOO simple (and it's a 300 level). I was wondering if anyone has ever heard of such classes. Maybe the label of sociology or psychology makes it seem like it's not "math"...and you just "observe" numerical things but it really IS math anyway...I hope that makes sense.
Edited by mathmustdie on July 06 2012 09:45 PM
 
RottieWoman
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Posted on July 07 2012 02:37 AM
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hello mathmustdie. I'm sorry about your waiver getting rejected! Can you appeal it?

I had to take Intro or Basic Stats for my Sociology major. It was considered an upper-level course in the major. I don't know if they offered it as a math class for non-majors. But it was all math and I didn't understand anything. But that's just me-
 
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Posted on July 07 2012 04:45 AM
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I am going to fight against the rejection but I was hoping that maybe I could avoid a battle somehow with these seemingly non-math classes in the math section. If it's all math that's definitely bad for me! Oh well Sad
 
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Posted on July 07 2012 03:36 PM
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Math classes like stats for social sciences aren't labelled "math" because they are inappropriate to offer as electives for other majors, or for use toward a minor. In general, colleges do not want a computer science major being able to take the social sciences stats class and have it fulfill a math requirement. It doesn't have the rigor required for that major.

How much math are in these courses depends on the school and the department making the class.

Some of them are fairly involved, but all the examples in the class are tailored for the major (Business Calculus is like this). Others are more of an overview, and have relatively little arithmetic and algebra involved.

Almost universally, they are geared toward students who do not have an interest in math and often are coming from a shaky background in the subject. They are still math classes, but they assume you remember fewer algebra tricks and rules.

Either way, you have a much better chance (even if it's slim) of doing well in the social sciences math class if you have to take one. At the very least, the examples are more concrete and will give you something to refer to and reason about outside the pure math of it.
 
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Posted on July 07 2012 04:11 PM
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Hi mathmustdie,
What is your major in for your BA? Please excuse me if you've told us this already (you know how I am). Is it a Social Worker degree? - jus'
 
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Posted on July 07 2012 08:02 PM
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I guess it makes sense that these types of classes would exist for people who don't like math or don't do well in it but yet know some algebra tricks. Unfortunately I struggle with simpler math.

My major for my BA is Fine Arts.
 
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Posted on July 08 2012 08:03 PM
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BFA! That's great. I was 'in' a BFA for one semester. The good news is that I did enough art courses to finish a minor in studio art. The bad news is that my painting teacher was 'underwhelmed' by my work and gave me a B. People who aren't in a BFA don't understand what this means. They think that it was 'just one grade in one class from one teacher'. But in our BFA program, we had to maintain a B average to stay in the program,... had to pass an additional 'portfolio review' after a few more classs to stay in the program,... and had to have a 'concentration' in painting, sculpture, glassblowing, etc. Well, that teacher who I 'underwhelmed' was over the concentration in painting. And her opinion wasn't going to change about my work. So, jumping over into a Spanish degree was the best idea for me, under the circumstances.

mathmustdie, when I got my diagnosis as having Mathematics Disorder, one of the problems that I have (which was detected) is that I can't remember 'sequence and proceedure'. What I've noticed any time that someone tries to teach me a 'trick' to remembering something is that the 'trick' just becomes even more clutter in my brain. I am unable to pass Elementary Algebra, although I got an A in the previous developmental course, which was called Pre-Algebra.

I may have some suggestions for you on what to do about the math credits that you are missing, but I'll have to ask you another couple of questions first. To be able to speak more freely, I'll send you a PM. Hope to hear back from you. - jus'
Edited by justfoundout on July 08 2012 08:04 PM
 
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Posted on July 11 2012 02:32 PM
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mathmustdie, I struggle with more basic math, too-
 
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