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Dyscalculics in Math. <RUN AWAY! MATH>
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| ZomgNichole |
Posted on January 17 2007 01:05 AM
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I have a question for you dyscalculics in math. There is no actual solving involved so don't get scared.
When I was in 1st and 2nd grade I did extremely well in Math. Probably because it was 'simple' things. In third grade I had a teacher who wasn't so good and she had us doing our times tables and everyone knew them by memory in the same grade. I didn't learn mine until the fifth grade. Even now, as an 8th grader I have problems with my 9's. <Don't tell anybody> Sometimes I even forget what we learned the day before. Today we had a math test and I know I failed. I'm almost positive. There was a problem like 4x-2 + 5x + 10 = 180 degrees. I did the problem two times and completely got it wrong. I knew I was doing it the correct way and on the third try I finally got the right answer.
How did you guys do in Math in 8th grade and were you slow with your times tables?
Did you have any problems like forgetting what you learned? |
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| Toe_Nail |
Posted on January 17 2007 02:19 AM
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I don't remember what 8th grade math was like, it was too long ago and besides the Canadian system is probably a little different from the USA system. But definately time tables were very difficult to learn. In fact, I still don't know my time tables (except fo the easy one like 0, 1, 2, 5 and 10 tables) and I'm 30 years old - The only difference now, is that I don't care so much anymore what people might think of me if I'm caught counting on my fingers.
I'm usually good at remembering what I just learned, yet everyone is different.
The type of math problem you describe above is a lot easier to solve when you know your time tables well, same as in all advanced math. Otherwize, it's like tryying to write a novel when one hasn't completely mastered the alphabet.
Are you getting the help you need? If you have been diagnosed, you should be entitled to benefit from more time and perhaps be allowed to use a calculator and take notes on a lose sheet of paper.
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| Laura |
Posted on January 17 2007 03:48 PM
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Hi ZomgNichole, Is 8th grade abiut 13 years old???? If so i was like you in respect to the times tables. Even now at 22 years old i do not understand the 6, 7, 8, 9 and 12 times tables. I am useless as i always seem to take forever to count up what ever number i need. I work and use numbers all the time and my boss just looks at me like i am an idiot as he gets it really quickly where as i am really slow |
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| ZomgNichole |
Posted on January 17 2007 08:43 PM
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I haven't been diagnosed and in fact, my g.c doesn't seem to think I have it at all. I know something is wrong though, because I get inconsistant results with my adding,subtracting,multiplication and division. I read the number 8 and then I go and write down 5.
My math teacher's give us scrap paper and extra time if we need it. They also offer extra help. I'll be going to that tomorrow and Friday.
I've been doing a bit of research lately and I've come to the conclusion that I have an extremely bad case of Math Anxiety or a less mild case of Dyscalculia.
Yes,Laura, 8th grade is in the range of thirteen and fourteen.
** Toe_Nail, the problem I wrote wasn't advanced math. It's on level 8th grade math. ^^
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| TheatreLvr08 |
Posted on January 17 2007 09:04 PM
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I never did well with times tables, and 8th grade was when I really started to notice my number reversal and stuff like that.
~Rachel~
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| Toe_Nail |
Posted on January 17 2007 11:09 PM
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ZomgNichole wrote:
** Toe_Nail, the problem I wrote wasn't advanced math. It's on level 8th grade math. ^^
That says how much I know  |
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| ZomgNichole |
Posted on January 17 2007 11:33 PM
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I started noticing my 'stupid mistakes' at the end of 7th grade. I've always been in danger of failing math since the 6th grade. Thank you guys. ^^ |
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| Freda |
Posted on January 18 2007 07:08 PM
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8th grade was when I started thinking I actually had some problems in math.
"When I was in 1st and 2nd grade I did extremely well in Math. Probably because it was 'simple' things"
Same here! They actually told me my strong point was maths, but that changed around 3rd-4th grade.
"I have problems with my 9's"
Here's a finger trick for 9 times tables. It works all the way up to 9*10.
Put all 10 fingers in front of you and spread them out. Then pick a number you want to multiply by nine. We'll use 3. From the left, count to the third finger. Put it down (or curl it inwards, whatever). Count the number of fingers to the.. left of it. 2. Count the number to the right. 7. Put them together, and you get 27!! That's 9*3. This works for all of them. (if that made no sense, let me know)
And don't worry, as everyone else has said- nobody is really great with times tables. IT seems to be a weakness.
"Today we had a math test and I know I failed. I'm almost positive."
You gave it your best shot, I'm sure. And hey, if you did fail - it happens to the best of us. Try not to get too discouraged.
"There was a problem like 4x-2 + 5x + 10 = 180 degrees. I did the problem two times and completely got it wrong. I knew I was doing it the correct way and on the third try I finally got the right answer."
And hey- great work catching your mistakes. I like problems you can actually check. Like, ones where you solve for variables, because then you can plug the number you got back in and see if it is right.  |
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| Lynx |
Posted on January 19 2007 01:11 PM
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So we can use that hand-thing all the way up until 10 * 9?
Thanks thats really handy (no pun intended!).
I'll try and remember that one.
Any advice for 8's?
I get up to three times 8 and then get really lost.
Someone at my school said something about adding ten and taking two which seems really obvious now but never works for me.
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| scifinut |
Posted on January 19 2007 02:01 PM
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ZomgNichole, My daughter is in 9th and still can't do times tables other than 2, some 3 and 4, 5 and 10. She was dx'd with Dyscalculia when she was in 4th grade. She uses a calculator and gets support for math struggles.
Have you talked to your parents about your concerns? Talk to them and ask to get some testing done and some extra help. ((hugs))
scifinut, mom to:
Ms. 15, bp/adhd/complex LD |
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| Freda |
Posted on January 19 2007 04:54 PM
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Fata Morgana wrote:
So we can use that hand-thing all the way up until 10 * 9?
Thanks thats really handy (no pun intended!).
I'll try and remember that one.
Indeed you can! I don't think anything past 10 is that common either way. Good luck with it, and I hope it helps 
Fata Morgana wrote:
Any advice for 8's?
I get up to three times 8 and then get really lost.
Someone at my school said something about adding ten and taking two which seems really obvious now but never works for me.
My advice is a calculator.. lol. I have no idea for 8 tricks, and the thing that person said doesn't make much sense :S
I'm AWFUL at 8s. |
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| Drache |
Posted on January 28 2007 10:11 AM
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Any advice for 8's?
I get up to three times 8 and then get really lost.
Someone at my school said something about adding ten and taking two which seems really obvious now but never works for me
Hallo Fata Morgana,
they way I would do it is 3x10=30
From 8 to 10 is 2 so 3x2 =6
Take away 6 from 30 = 24
Obviously you have to write that down, but does that make sense to you?
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| Carmine |
Posted on February 25 2007 04:54 PM
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I got terrible grades in math and my parents punished me by having me write the multiplication tables, 1 through 11, twenty-five times. I hated it. But now that I'm in my forties, I KNOW my multiplication tables, I just can't divide... lol I don't know them in order, like 3, 6, 9, ect (in fact, that's as high as I can go) but when I say '3 x 4 = 12' and so on, I know the right answer, I just haven't memorized them without saying the 'number times number equals number' route.
For my nines, I just remember the joke: A guy walks into a job interview and is told to write down the nines times table. He is given a paper with '1 x 9=' and so on down the page. He starts with the first problem and decides to count the lines, since he has no idea what else to do. So he writes zero through 9 then starts with the last one and numbers them again, starting with zero and going up the page. Turns the paper in and gets the job. What he ends up doing is writing 09, 18, 27, 36, 45, 54, 63, 72, 81, 90.
I also just remember that the answer's first number is always less then the number being multiplied by nine ('9 x 4' is three) and the answer always (at least one through ten) adds up to nine ('9 x 4' is three, three plus six equals nine so '9 x 4' is 36).
I don't think there are any tricks to the 8s, I just know them....as long as I say/think "8 x 3 = 24, 8 x 4 = 32, 8 x 5 = 40, 8 x 6 = 48, 8 x 7 = 56,..' and so on, but I can't just rattle them off like 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30... |
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| kira |
Posted on August 06 2012 02:15 AM
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There is a trick with 8's. Once you know that the 9's go up by one in the ten's place, and down by one in the one's place (18, 27, 36), it's easy to remember that 8's are the same except they go down by two's (16, 24, 32) (that is 6, 4, 2, and so on). I used to write them down when I was multiplying, until eventually I was able to count it bacbwards in my head, and finally became quick (though I'm still counting). |
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