Thread subject: The Dyscalculia Forum :: Big Brother UK - Freddie dyscalculic?
Posted by ert on July 19 2009 10:33 PM
#1
Anybody watching this? A while ago Sree and Freddie (Halfwit) had a discussion, and Sree made fun of Freddie being dyslexic. Freddie has mentioned being dyslexic, and having 'number dyslexia'. I have no idea if he knows that dyscalculia exists.
Sree said:
"Personallyme, I respect that you are dyslexic and got into Oxford BUT WHAT ARE 15 15's? [short pause], excactly...."
Freddie didn't reply, but looked confused/sad/angry or something like that.
(Sree is Indian, so that's the reason for his not so correct English)
Just wondering if anybody else noticed this... Oh I found an article;
From the DS News
Wow so they are going to investigate the alleged 'bullying 'of Freddie by Sree. That means that there have been many complaints for them to consider doing this.
Big Brother investigating 'bully' Sree
Day 31, 11:40 BST
By Polly Taylor
WENN
Big Brother producers are launching an investigation into allegations that recently evicted housemate Sree was a bully, reports the Daily Star.
According to the newspaper, the Indian student upset viewers when he mocked Freddie's learning difficulties during an argument.
When Freddie asked Sree to use less garlic, Sree shouted: "You're a dyslexic student from Oxford - what's 15 times 15?"
He also branded him a "madman" and an "idiot".
Channel 4 reportedly received a number of complaints about the comments and are due to launch an investigation into alleged bullying.
Sree was last night the fourth official housemate to be evicted from the house.
Posted by ert on July 23 2009 11:56 PM
#2
On tonights show Freddie read the number 300.000 as thirty thousand in a "The price is right"-game, so I think yes, he's dyscalculic.
Ps. Do not tell anyone I watch Big Brother. It is my guilty pleasure hehehe. Sorry. Normally, I'm very, very picky.
Edited by ert on July 23 2009 11:57 PM
Posted by justfoundout on July 24 2009 03:52 AM
#3
7/23/09
I couldn't figure out what you were talking about until that very last P.S. It's some kind of reality show?- jus'
Posted by tr3slunas on July 24 2009 11:23 AM
#4
I have not really been following it but i know who is who, perhaps its worth me emailing channel four and i know they pass comments to the production team?? What do you think??
Hi jus' yeh it's a show where they stick a group of diverse people in a house together with no contact to the real world and see what happens... They also sre set tasks to mix things up a bit.
Edited by tr3slunas on July 24 2009 11:26 AM
Posted by tr3slunas on July 24 2009 04:16 PM
#5
tr3slunas wrote:
I have not really been following it but i know who is who, perhaps its worth me emailing channel four and i know they pass comments to the production team?? What do you think??
Hi jus' yeh it's a show where they stick a group of diverse people in a house together with no contact to the real world and see what happens... They also sre set tasks to mix things up a bit.
Ok channel four have a form you can film in with information they will send to the production team- what do you think to sending them something like this...?
Hi i am part of a Dyscalculia group and we believe Freddie (Halfwit) could have Dyscalculia as well as his Dyslexia which is a little known learning difficulty although believed to be just as prominent as Dyslexia- (the two do overlap as well) unfortunately here in the UK it is not well known even though it has been recognised by WHO for many years- I understand this is a strange request but perhaps you could pass this information on to him after the show.
(I am not qualified to diagnose, just a point of contact for a discussion group on the subject)
Posted by justfoundout on July 24 2009 09:48 PM
#6
7/24/09
Dear tr3slunas,
That's good content. Please forgive me for offering to 'tweak' the grammar, punctuation, and wording a little, since it's for the media. Keep what you like and ignore the rest. What you've said is fine. - jus'
"Hi. I am part of a Dyscalculia group. We believe that Freddie (Halfwit) could have Dyscalculia as well as his Dyslexia. Dyscalculia is a little known learning difficulty. Although it is believed to be just as prominent as Dyslexia- (the two do overlap as well) unfortunately here in the UK it is not well known, even though it has been recognised by WHO for many years. I understand that this is a strange request, but perhaps you could pass this information on to Freddie after the show. (I am not qualified to diagnose. I am just serving as a point of contact for a discussion group that focuses on the subject.)"
Edited by justfoundout on July 24 2009 09:51 PM
Posted by ert on July 24 2009 10:14 PM
#7
That's good. I think we should add that "This is just to let him know about dyscalculia. We are not selling anything - just spreading the word about dyscalculia".
Edited by ert on July 24 2009 10:14 PM
Posted by reverend blamo on July 24 2009 11:23 PM
#8
This is a great idea, (I know nothing about this show however) can you imagine the education viewers would get if this was mentioned on the show?. Do the others on the show call this guy "Halfwit" ? Awfully cruel.
Posted by ert on July 24 2009 11:35 PM
#9
Long story short, Freddie had to change his name in order to stay in the house. A girl named Sophie had to change her name to Dogface. Yeah ehm... Dunno how to explain. That's just how the game works, hehe.
Posted by tr3slunas on July 25 2009 08:06 AM
#10
Cool, i will post it tonight after work. There is an option for the production team to contact you back, so i hope they do! (:
I will add that it is about spreading the word
Jus' thanks for the grammar check (:
Edited by tr3slunas on July 25 2009 08:10 AM
Posted by ert on July 26 2009 03:09 AM
#11
Cool :)
Posted by justfoundout on July 26 2009 12:43 PM
#12
7/26/09
Dear tr3slunas,
Your welcome. Thanks for being the 'point of contact'. - jus'
Posted by tr3slunas on July 27 2009 08:09 PM
#13
Hey this is what i got back so far -
Thank you for contacting Channel 4 Viewer Enquiries regarding Big Brother.
Please be assured that your comments have been noted and logged. This log is
distributed throughout Channel 4 for all to read. Your comments will also be
brought to the attention of those who make Big Brother.
Thank you again for taking the time to contact us.
Posted by justfoundout on July 27 2009 11:48 PM
#14
7/27/09
Excellent! - jus'
Posted by ert on July 29 2009 02:22 AM
#15
Just watched a clip from the current US version of Big Brother. I don't watch the show, just found it by luck?
Anyway, there's a girl named Jordan who was talking about not being able to tell time. The other guys are making fun of her, trying to teach her what a quarter is in time, but she confuses a quarter with a quarter of 100, instead of 60. Here's the clip;
Jordan and Jeff are lying on the bed talking when Jordan reveals she can't handle time on a clock. She basically doesn't know what 'quarter till' means. Jeff tries to educate her. He asks her how many quarters are in an hour. She says 25. He then asks her how many minutes are in an hour. She actually knows the answer is 60. So, he asks her how many quarters make up an hour. She says 25 again. Hoping to help her, he tells her that she needs to divide 60 minutes by 4. But asking her to do division only makes things worse. Jeff breaks things down further. He asks her what is half of 60. She says 30. Then he ask what is half of 30. She says 15. So, he asks again, how many quarters are in an hour. She still doesn't know. The segment mercifully ends.
Hmm!
Posted by euphena on July 29 2009 07:57 AM
#16
Hiya
Yep I've watching Big Brother and have read stuff on Digital spy about Sree apparently, he's been released from hospital after self harming himself with a knife, the whole experience of BB10 has overwhelmed him.
I personally think Freddie will win. I also think he's bright and probably knows dyscalculia exists.
Posted by tr3slunas on July 29 2009 09:01 AM
#17
Perhaps someone from the US could email like I did? - you never know... :-)
Posted by reverend blamo on July 29 2009 10:18 AM
#18
I actually saw that one part, I was flipping throught the channels, saw the show and was trying figure if it was the same show you have been writting about (is it? ) I think, ( my apologies to her) she might just be kid of dumb.
In the states they call it "being blonde" In reality it is just that SOME, only a few really, pretty girls don't bother to learn a darn thing because they don't think it's needed or important.
Posted by twistedxkiss on July 29 2009 02:53 PM
#19
reverend blamo wrote:
I actually saw that one part, I was flipping throught the channels, saw the show and was trying figure if it was the same show you have been writting about (is it? ) I think, ( my apologies to her) she might just be kid of dumb.
In the states they call it "being blonde" In reality it is just that SOME, only a few really, pretty girls don't bother to learn a darn thing because they don't think it's needed or important.
Someone told me yesterday that I was "just another stupid girl," and if I hadn't been pulling "this learning disability CRAP" U of M wouldn't have accepted me, "and rightly so!"
I dunno, I've never seen any of the show besides that clip, but her way of explaining why she can't tell time is pretty much exactly how I try to explain it. And when she sits up she's trying to draw out the numbers in the air, which implies to me she can't just visualize them like everyone else apparently can. I obviously don't know one way or the other, admittedly she doesn't seem like the brightest crayon in the box, but I could also see acting like you're stupid being a pretty reasonable defense mechanism-- I am beginning to believe it would be a LOT easier than trying to convince people I'm not a total idiot.
Posted by reverend blamo on August 02 2009 03:21 AM
#20
I certainly would rather not think she , or anyone else was dumb, and I really don't think, based on the little I saw was that she is. I often fear that instead of having LDs I am just simply dumb and the people who told me that I did have LDs were just wrong.
I know several people who are not dumb but just did very little in school and now suffer. The American school system let them down. They didn't want to study and the school let it happen that way. I was speaking to a young girl a short time ago about WWII ( yeah, I know what chicks like to talk about ;) ) during the conversation she asked " Who were we fighting?" and "We won, right? " Now she is not a stupid person, but somehow got through school with out knowing that we ( the US ) fought against Hawaii in WWII and now own it. Jeez.
Posted by ert on August 02 2009 03:34 AM
#21
Well, the way the American girl describes the problem is similar to a dyscalculic's description. Not saying she is, just found it funny that one Big Brother housemate after the other was talking about math difficulties.
Reverend blamo, I don't think it's the American school system, I think it's how people just are. We all say stupid things. We can't know everything about everything. That's not human. You're bound to say something stupid at some point, which sucks when you're being filmed 24/7, haha.
Like this girl Karly from UK Big Brother. A while ago, she told another housemate that the English language was so close to German, because the Germans came to England during World War 2. She was completely serious. Oh well, makes good TV ;)
Edited by ert on August 02 2009 03:36 AM
Posted by justfoundout on August 02 2009 02:38 PM
#22
8/2/09
Blamo, shame on you for misleading your fellow dyscalculics RE: Hawaii and WWII. :P - jus'
Posted by reverend blamo on August 02 2009 02:40 PM
#23
ert wrote:
Reverend blamo, I don't think it's the American school system, I think it's how people just are. We all say stupid things. We can't know everything about everything. That's not human. You're bound to say something stupid at some point, which sucks when you're being filmed 24/7, haha.
I 'll have you know your talking to an expert at saying stupid things.
(mostly 'cause I get nervous in some social situations)
Posted by reverend blamo on August 02 2009 02:44 PM
#24
justfoundout wrote:
8/2/09
Blamo, shame on you for misleading your fellow dyscalculics RE: Hawaii and WWII. :P - jus'
Sorry, I must have confused it with the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor during the Civil War.
Posted by justfoundout on August 02 2009 06:33 PM
#25
8/2/09
Dear Blamo,
You are incorrigible. :) - jus'